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5th Dec 2020, 10:31 PM in Chapter 8
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Rocktopus 5th Dec 2020, 10:31 PM edit delete
Looks like Colleen is learning how to think like a dungeoneer.


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melaredblu 5th Dec 2020, 11:13 PM edit delete reply
A new member, you say? I think I know a guy.
BornOnTheNinth 5th Dec 2020, 11:16 PM edit delete reply
Based on the banner at the top of the page, I'm going to make a wild guess that their new team member will be Ozzi.
Photomaginarium 6th Dec 2020, 3:21 AM edit delete reply
that's just a decoy the DM threw in there to throw us off track. i'm pretty sure that barstool from the tavern is the new member. not sure if it's a druid or a ranger tho.
SomeGuy411 11th Dec 2020, 4:26 PM edit delete reply
Neither-it's actually a rather civilized mimic. Being a barstool is just it's day job
Guest 6th Dec 2020, 8:07 AM edit delete reply
if it's so , i'm worried about Ox ; i'll pretend he's just too short and did not fit in that snapshot.
Oldarmourer 6th Dec 2020, 2:18 PM edit delete reply
The thing about banner portraits is that there's often no timeline to them...
This one could be the next episode...or ten years down the road...
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 9:21 PM edit delete reply
The banner at the top was designed to show the three main characters to new readers.
Lurker 7th Dec 2020, 9:51 PM edit delete reply
Definitely Ozzi. The foreshadowing and plot hooks are all there. It's obvious...

...-ly a setup for a plot twist! :-P
Utzad 5th Dec 2020, 11:33 PM edit delete reply
Have you considered a man with a criminal past and a recent wood elf lady friend?
StLOrca 6th Dec 2020, 1:16 AM edit delete reply
Is it me, or does Colleen sound a bit disappointed with Randulf?
Photomaginarium 6th Dec 2020, 3:21 AM edit delete reply
i'm hearing that. yes.

or is she a bit disappointed in herself for adventuring with Randulf? like:

Colleen: Mom! I'm adventuring these days with this really interesting dwarf --

Colleen's mom: You mean an alcoholic?

Colleen: Is there another kind of dwarf?

Colleen's mom: Good point, though I hear the deep-dwarves are into downers.
Oldarmourer 6th Dec 2020, 2:21 PM edit delete reply
Unlike the 'High' Elves who are more nature oriented ;)
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 9:19 PM edit delete reply
Adventuring with Randulf is a real rollercoaster of emotions
Bookeater_otaku 6th Dec 2020, 4:09 AM edit delete reply
Not a bad reasoning from Colleen. Having a good vision all around and always having someone on the lookout when the other is unconscious are both logical. Getting a new teammates on tbe oyher hand will be harder because very few can stand Randulph.

Colleen is very aware of this and know she is stuck with him. On her own she wouldn't survive and while she recognize his experience and skills, she know she is stuck with a very damaged person you make the team up all kind of stressful.

Great page as always, the art is beautiful, all the sandstones and statue look great and we can see how Colleen have grown in her role as an adventurers. She isn't panicking like last time, still scared but she calmly made camp and stood watch.
Oldarmourer 6th Dec 2020, 2:24 PM edit delete reply
The art is incredibly detailed for the style, every time you look there's something you missed before.
The look on Colleen's face in the last panel really makes the whole page, she has an air of confident pensiveness that gives her an instant maturity.
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 9:18 PM edit delete reply
Thank you! I try to make every panel a small illustration in its own right, so I love adding details that only some people will ever notice.
Bookeater_otaku 6th Dec 2020, 4:17 AM edit delete reply
You know, it would be nice to see what is each character basic kit they bring into the Dungeon. Maybe there could be a scene in the future where we see Colleen and Ozzie in town taking a day for maintenance of the gears of the group and talking what stuff they need to buy, repair or upgrade. It's a part of Dungeoneering that is not often talked about.
Oldarmourer 6th Dec 2020, 2:29 PM edit delete reply
I don't know what would be more interesting, seeing their gear being packed and waiting for each one to be used or waiting to see things in action...
We've already seen a door being spiked, if memory serves me, and there's not much room in their packs and pouches for oil flasks, ropes, spikes and the proverbial ten foot pole...
On the one hand though, they don't go in for that long so there isn't much need for bulky rations, maybe a few high energy snacks, food and clothing items generally take up the most room in a pack and have since the first army was created.
Sharp 7th Dec 2020, 3:08 AM edit delete reply
Is this a good place to confess that I love watching hiker videos pack loadouts?
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 7:04 PM edit delete reply
Just the essentials, just the essentials. Some rope, pitons, torches, flint and steel, booze, a magical hourglass that keeps time, backup weapons, booze, some compact food, town portal scroll, foldout shovel, booze, hammer and nails, matches, an emergency potion or two, booze...

Am I forgetting anything?
Bookeater_otaku 6th Dec 2020, 7:59 PM edit delete reply
Some spare underwears? For, you know, the pant-shitting terror that lurks in the corridors of the dungeon? A knife is a usefull tool. A first aid kit to go with the potion. Upgrade to a lamp? Torches can be used as an emergency weapon but don't last long and the open flame can be a hazard.

From memory, we have seen that Colleen has some wood for fire fuel, some camping kit like the the coffee carafe she is using on the page, the small foldable rack she put above the fire for carafe, some water (to make tea, drink or cleaning wounds), some rags to clean herself (remember the exploding monster?).
RandomPerson 7th Dec 2020, 7:30 AM edit delete reply
IDK maybe booze
stormbringer77 8th Dec 2020, 5:23 AM edit delete reply
And don't forget the Pipe and a pouch of Herb with it.
Xerxes Aragon 11th Dec 2020, 3:36 PM edit delete reply
Toilet paper.
Nazrel 11th Dec 2020, 4:54 PM edit delete reply
Booze. You forgot booze.
padanew 6th Dec 2020, 5:36 AM edit delete reply
If he is getting blackout drunk, the monster that will kill him is stage four liver disease. Think about how many distilleries and beer breweries that would go out of business if Randolf died?
Oldarmourer 6th Dec 2020, 2:19 PM edit delete reply
Dwarven livers, much like human ones can regenerate themselves...they just do it a lot faster...they have to ;)
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 6:56 PM edit delete reply
Dwarves CAN get liver disease same as any other person. But just like Oldarmourer said, it just takes a lot longer, and a lot more booze.
Bookeater_otaku 6th Dec 2020, 6:11 AM edit delete reply
Sleeping with your armor on must be all kind of uncomfortable. But I wouldn't sleep without it in the Dungeon either. Too much danger getting attacked. In fact it's probably very ill-advised to sleep within the Marble Gates Dungeon...

You know, wouldn't Colleen have a miracle to cure poison? She was able to clear rot and disease from potatoes in the flashback or is the poison removal miracle is another one altogether? Or one that can help protect against nightmares? Or a curse like I suspect Randulph is the victim of? (It's probably PTSD and I don't think there is a miracle for this)

Because she could cure him of all the booze in his body or the hangover before entering the Dungeon. ...Ok that would rob her of a precious miracle/spell since she can only do so much right now and would be pretty stupid to spend it every time they goes Dungeoning.

Wait, does dream magic fall under her category of magic/miracles or it would fall more under shamanic magic in this universe?

And how can Colleen aquire new miracles? I know she got one given to her when she summoned that sheep angel but how did she learn all her first miracles? Did the friar at her village taught her the right prayers? If that's the case, I guess the place she learned to fight taught her the 'Protective shield' one, the one that has the name of some saint attached to it.

Can the church in town teach her some more? Probably in exchange for some donations or something...
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 6:46 PM edit delete reply

Lore Drop!

The prayers themselves are not a magic chant that must be repeated perfectly to make the miracle happen, and the holy symbols are just symbols for the user to focus on and help them concentrate. Neither of them are mandatory or even technically needed.

In this world, miracles are performed through faith. If you have been chosen by a deity, then you can channel their divine (or unholy) power through your body by truly believing, despite all reason, logic, and evidence, that the deity will intervene on your part.

Deities make it clear through a sort of "sixth sense" what miracles and spells can be performed by their chosen priests and priestesses, for whatever purpose the deity intends for them. Colleen learned to mend, repair, and cleanse because the High Father intended her to use it for a specific purpose.

The High Father Shield was something she learned to do while training with the warrior nuns that taught her how to fight. She already could do it; as she unintentionally used it by pure instinct to save her father and brothers from the collapsing barn. The nuns she trained with are devoted to Saint Rachael (the patron saint of the warrior nuns), and pray for her guidance before battle. While she was training with them, she joined them in their pre-battle devotions and learned to petition to saint Rachael for blessings before a battle. And in doing so, learned to concentrate the High Father's power into the miracle he gave her by praying to Saint Rachael, and now can perform the miracle at will.

She learned to summon her Guardian (the sheep) in chapter 5 in a moment of pure desperation and despair. She remembered a prayer her father taught her as a girl about being courageous, and in that moment, truly believed the High Father would deliver her. In doing so, she learned to use the prayer to summon the celestial being.

Even so, you can only channel so much divine power through your mortal body before your body literally starts to fall apart, potentially killing you if you try to channel too much. You must rest once it starts to hurt and let your body recover. If you really overdo it, pushing past the agony of over channeling divine power, you could quite literally explode into a featureless pile of gore.

As you practice, you can slowly get used to the pain and discomfort, and cast divine spells more often, and cast more the more powerful spells that your deity has chosen for you. Powerful miracles are impossible to cast for all but the oldest and most experienced possessors of the Gift.
Bookeater_otaku 6th Dec 2020, 8:05 PM edit delete reply
Cool. I guess the same goes with that attack spell she got to smite her ennemy.

I am curious about those little glowy eyes with wings she got in the banner above. They look like a great alternative to her light miracle since each can follow one member of the group.
Grim 10th Dec 2020, 12:40 PM edit delete reply
I always liked the idea that the limiting factor for an individual channeling magical power was the body or soul of the individual; and that over time they became inured to the detrimental effects of being a conduit of that power, and so could channel more (ie more spell slots and higher level spells). That concept opens up really cool potential story elements of individuals who “burn out” channeling too much or sacrifice themselves to cast above their level for some crucial purpose.
Can’t wait to see more of the mechanics of magic in your world!
Æþelwulf 28th Dec 2020, 6:56 AM edit delete reply
If your armor fits right, it's not bad really. You know that rock or root or whatever that always ends up prodding you right between your shoulder blades when you sleep on the ground? A lot more comfortable to lie on when you've got a steel plate between it and your body.

(25-year SCA veteran here...)
Bookeater_otaku 6th Dec 2020, 6:14 AM edit delete reply
Oh! I spotted the four leaf clover her parents sent her with the last letter! It's on the cover of her belt pouche.

Nice detail Rocktopus!
Guest 6th Dec 2020, 8:05 AM edit delete reply
you must have +1 to four leaf clover detection.
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 6:05 PM edit delete reply
Glad you noticed!
Tooniator 6th Dec 2020, 4:18 PM edit delete reply
So, Colleen is mainlining coffee for days? Jittery!
rancom 6th Dec 2020, 4:20 PM edit delete reply
She has no bedroll, but she has hot coffee. Very practical. And very relaxed - next time Randulf wakes up, we will see her in deep conversation with some monster :)
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 6:04 PM edit delete reply
Hey, not every monster in Marble Gate is looking to kill you! Most, but not all.
Sturzkampf 6th Dec 2020, 4:27 PM edit delete reply
"Where are we?"
Spooky voice from the darkness:
"Nearing the end of your miserable lives! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"
Rocktopus 6th Dec 2020, 6:02 PM edit delete reply
If Colleen was more mischievous, she could really bamboozle Randulf one of these days.
charlesw81 7th Dec 2020, 1:54 AM edit delete reply
So... Anyone know if that was some internal comment from Colleen about Randulf being the only one who will ever sleep? Or do we think either Randulf can randomly hear people's internal comments or that whatever dream demon he has just adds commentary to mess with him?

I wonder if his drinking is just emotional from past horrors that give him nightmares or if he really has some kind of a dream demon and the drinking helps keep it at bay.
Varyon 7th Dec 2020, 5:40 PM edit delete reply
It simply being Colleen's internal thoughts, with Randulf none the wiser, makes the most sense. As for his drinking problem, while it's possible he's cursed/possessed with something that is able to get past the checkup when he returns to town yet can be held at bay by getting blackout drunk, him having perfectly-mundane PTSD and drinking in an attempt to self-medicate sounds far more likely.
Darkening 9th Dec 2020, 5:36 PM edit delete reply
Yeah, but a curse is less sad because anything caused by magic can generally be fixed by magic. Things caused by trauma are... harder to fix, unfortunately :(.
Rocktopus 8th Dec 2020, 12:21 AM edit delete reply
It's Colleen's thoughts in the last panel.
Sen 11th Dec 2020, 7:56 AM edit delete reply
Oh no! The innocent girl is growing up! Soon she'll be hardboiled pro!

Very nice to see her getting better at this! Soon she'll get a level up if she not already has XD
Oldarmourer 11th Dec 2020, 6:34 PM edit delete reply
She skipped the bedroll but remembered the coffee...she's a keeper !!