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Blotto 17th May 2019, 6:15 PM edit delete reply
Blotto
Seems like maybe they should wait it out. I suppose they'll probably be paying taxes to his brother next time.
Rocktopus 17th May 2019, 6:53 PM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
lol now there's an idea.
Although, wars back in the sword-and-shield days took decades to resolve, rather than a year or two like they do now.
Matt 19th May 2019, 4:23 PM edit delete reply
Au contraire, wars back then were to be resolved before winter came. WW1 was the first war that seen soldiers to be deployed through the winter.

Yes, there were such things as 100 year old war..but that wasn't really a one conflict spanning the whole duration, like most modern wars were. Rather it was simply a century filled to the brim with various little (and big) conflicts coming up, treaties being made and broken, ceasefires, peaces, backstabbing, politics, etc. From the viewpoint of common folk, it doesn't matter who is fighting with who. The important thing is, the crops are trampled... again.
Guest 21st May 2019, 4:16 AM edit delete reply
> Au contraire, wars back then were to be resolved before winter came. WW1 was the first war that seen soldiers to be deployed through the winter.

Don't you mean that battles, at least at latitudes away from the equator, did not last through winters? Winters might have paused wars at certain latitudes, but that did not mean that they were not still on-going. Decades long wars were definitely not uncommon in ancient times.

> From the viewpoint of common folk, it doesn't matter who is fighting with who. The important thing is, the crops are trampled... again.

100% false and wrong. Some armies came to liberate from foreign invading armies and nations, other armies raided, looted and taxed heavily, and other armies yet killed all the men and enslaved all women and children. And some armies slaughtered everyone or even sought genocide. See for instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Baghdad_%281258%29#Destruction :

__"Many historical accounts detailed the cruelties of the Mongol conquerors. Baghdad was a depopulated, ruined city for several centuries and only gradually recovered some of its former glory."

__"The Mongols looted and then destroyed mosques, palaces, libraries, and hospitals. Priceless books from Baghdad's thirty-six public libraries were torn apart, the looters using their leather covers as sandals.[28] Grand buildings that had been the work of generations were burned to the ground. The House of Wisdom (the Grand Library of Baghdad), containing countless precious historical documents and books on subjects ranging from medicine to astronomy, was destroyed. Survivors said that the waters of the Tigris ran black with ink from the enormous quantities of books flung into the river and red from the blood of the scientists and philosophers killed.[29]"

__"Citizens attempted to flee, but were intercepted by Mongol soldiers who killed in abundance, sparing neither women nor children. Martin Sicker writes that close to 90,000 people may have died.[30] Other estimates go much higher. Wassaf claims the loss of life was several hundred thousand. Ian Frazier of The New Yorker says estimates of the death toll have ranged from 200,000 to a million.[31]"

Even the Bible describes complete genocide (killing everything that breathes, men, women and children) committed or commanded to be committed by the Chosen People: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+20%3A16-18&version=KJV , https://www.gotquestions.org/Canaanites-extermination.html .

And there have been genocides in the modern age, some of them you are likely well aware of, but there are also genocides like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide committed by Muslims in East Pakistan (current Bangladesh) where estimates according to Wikipedia vary between 300,000 to 3,000,000 genocided.
Guest 21st May 2019, 4:25 AM edit delete reply
I apologize, I should not have written "battles", but "fighting" or "campaigns".
Guest 21st May 2019, 4:56 AM edit delete reply
It seems that some campaigns in the Middle Ages in latitudes away from the equator definitely did have fighting during the winter, including specially designated "winter campaigns". For instance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turenne%27s_Winter_Campaign . And the Swedes walked on frozen seawater several kilometers between parts of Denmark as part of a surprise invasion of Denmark: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_Across_the_Belts .

So the sentence:

>Au contraire, wars back then were to be resolved before winter came. WW1 was the first war that seen soldiers to be deployed through the winter.

seem fully false and wrong as well.
lirvilas 17th May 2019, 6:33 PM edit delete reply
lirvilas
Going dungeon crawling to support the defense budget.

I like it.
Rocktopus 17th May 2019, 6:52 PM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
Gotta pay those taxes somehow
lirvilas 17th May 2019, 6:59 PM edit delete reply
lirvilas
Also... pillage is half a word. There’s something else that comes with that, and they need to back up their aristocrats to prevent that.
chris-tar 17th May 2019, 6:45 PM edit delete reply
chris-tar
Had women been running the world back then, there would be no war and they would all be eating cupcakes right now...
Rocktopus 17th May 2019, 6:51 PM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
If women ran the medieval world, there'd be less war, but a hell of a lot more assassination political conspiracy :P
chris-tar 17th May 2019, 10:37 PM edit delete reply
chris-tar
Actually I think that is a misconception. I think there would be just as much, if not more war had women always been running things.
lirvilas 17th May 2019, 6:58 PM edit delete reply
lirvilas
Poisonous cupcakes!

Trust no pastry!
Stevie 17th May 2019, 7:18 PM edit delete reply
THE BARONESS SAID WHAT ABOUT MY DRESS!? RALLY THE MEN THIS MEANS WAR!
Stevie 17th May 2019, 7:18 PM edit delete reply
THE BARONESS SAID WHAT ABOUT MY DRESS!? RALLY THE MEN THIS MEANS WAR!
BornOnTheNinth 17th May 2019, 11:24 PM edit delete reply
"Had women been running the world back then, there would be no war"

Try telling that to Olga of Kiev. Also be sure to ask her what happened to the Drevlians.
padanew 18th May 2019, 4:09 AM edit delete reply
padanew
Two books come to mind the first.

The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin

and the second;

A Brother’s Price by Wen Spencer you can read the first chapter here : http://www.wenspencer.com/a-brothers-price/

Sometimes the problems just change with who is dealing with them not just the sex of the person dealing with it.
Guest 18th May 2019, 12:02 PM edit delete reply
Had women been running the world back then we probably wouldn't have gotten smash ultimate. I think we made the right call letting men rule.
Guest 18th May 2019, 8:20 PM edit delete reply
"Running the world".

"Smash Ultimate".

"We made the right call".

"Letting men rule".

Is this a man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man? Or a woman pretending to be a man pretending to be a woman pretending to be a man? Whatever the case, I smell shenanigans.
someone 19th May 2019, 8:10 AM edit delete reply
There were a lot of women in charge back then. Power, being hereditary, was more willingly handed to women (if they're of the right family, of course) than it would be later on.

https://www.thoughtco.com/medieval-queens-empresses-and-women-rulers-3529750
This list also counts a few women rulers from outside of feudal Europe, but it's a good starting point anyway.
chris-tar 19th May 2019, 6:49 PM edit delete reply
chris-tar
This is exactly what I was thinking. Women have been ruling all along actually. Lol
Andrew_C 20th May 2019, 1:39 PM edit delete reply
Andrew_C
Never heard of Margaret Thatcher, Theresa May, or Indira Ghandi have you?
Matthew 18th May 2019, 12:39 AM edit delete reply
ELDER: So wait, what if we pledge our loyalty to the Duke of Glinchfield? Would he protect us from your boss?

PATRICK: Uh... okay, now we're edging up against my oaths of loyalty and-

ELDER: Look, just wink if pledging loyalty to Glinchfield is a good idea.

PATRICK: No, I-

ELDER: He winked! I saw him wink everybody!

PATRICK: Ooooh, this might have been a mistake.
Rocktopus 18th May 2019, 6:35 AM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
lol
padanew 18th May 2019, 4:03 AM edit delete reply
padanew
They may end up paying just as much to his brother. The only ones who win in wars are the people who loan money to the kings. Also is her father the head of the village?
Rocktopus 18th May 2019, 6:36 AM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
Her father is one of the village leaders, yes. They have a small council of elders and respected members of the community who lead the village when needed.
padanew 18th May 2019, 6:55 AM edit delete reply
padanew
That's very reasonable. A lot of German villages worked more like a coop then a small town. Most farming village would decide on a crop for sale the next year and then work to get the best price when harvest time came. Since they raise sheep for wool mostly I am guessing. They must export a lot of wool or convert wool to yarn or cloth?
someone 19th May 2019, 8:13 AM edit delete reply
Correction: the ones who lend money to the *winning* king. The losing one won't be able to pay back his debts.

Also, don't lend so much money to them that you become a problem, as the Knight Templars could tell you.
Guest 20th May 2019, 1:21 AM edit delete reply
But what if the lender lends money to both sides, and then make both sides promise that if they win, they will pay the loans of the losing side as well, for instance through plunder and forced labour/slavery? Or maybe make them promise to make the losing side pay the loans of both sides? This is of course only meaningful if a primary purpose of the loans are profit and the lender is happy with either sides losing or being destroyed.
BornOnTheNinth 18th May 2019, 7:10 AM edit delete reply
It makes sense that of the six village leaders, three are grey-haired and one of them is the village friar. Elders were so respected because they lived to be old in a time when most people died young and so gained an uncommon amount of life experience, and of course the local religious leader was usually the most educated and trusted person in the community.

As a sidenote, if Colleen's village is poor then how did her father afford glasses? Glass itself was pretty expensive in the middle ages, and I'm guessing it would be expensive in this world too (the village houses don't have window panes).
Rocktopus 18th May 2019, 3:34 PM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
Glasses are a little more common in this world that in the real world during the medieval times.
Worstcase 18th May 2019, 4:19 PM edit delete reply
Then he probably can't see anything with those glasses - eyesight strength differs vastly between family members even between two generations.
He might be able to use it as magnifying lenses for readiung if it is the right sort of lenses but then he wouldn't have to wear them all the time.
chris-tar 19th May 2019, 1:38 AM edit delete reply
chris-tar
Perhaps the lenses were re-polished to the correct prescription?
Blackwing 19th May 2019, 5:51 AM edit delete reply
As someone who wears glasses, I can tell you that a pair of eyeglasses probably wouldn't even last a single generation. A person's eyesight can deteriorate (or in rare cases, improve) over time, necessitating updated prescriptions. Wear and tear also inevitably takes its toll. I've been through at least three pairs in my lifetime, and my current set is about due for replacement.
Rocktopus 19th May 2019, 7:42 AM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
Ah, you got me, you're probably right. I don't know that much about glasses. I'll retract my previous comment. I'm trying to think of explanations on the fly for these little details people ask me because I honestly designed the character before I knew the real-world history behind everything they're wearing!
Guest 19th May 2019, 8:45 AM edit delete reply
If you had to research every little detail in depth, there would not be any comic in the first place, so I greatly appreciate that you are prioritizing well and not spending large amounts of time on these tiny details :-) . I think your current detail level through the comic is great, and the overall quality as well as its art and story is honestly very, very high and excellent, triply so for a one-man project.
Matt 19th May 2019, 4:45 PM edit delete reply
Single person can go through serval pairs of glasses in their life time. But it's because of your eyesight deteriorating, not the glasses themselves rotting away, or something. Glasses work fine unless you break them, or scratch them enough to lose transparency. So they could easily go through serval generations of use. If the kid's eyes start to go bad, box of glasses is pulled from some chest, or something, and chances are at least one pair will help. If not, new glasses are made (and later added to collection).
Worstcase 20th May 2019, 10:23 AM edit delete reply
I could get behind the idea of some peddler having a box full of used glasses which once belonged to nobles or mildly wealthy people. The heirs threw them out because they had no use for the glasses anymore and they somehow get scavenged. The peddlers would then be selling them on the countryside to those that get lucky finding a fitting set of lenses in that box. Those glasses might be worn and scratched or simply be cheap because no one else would want them/could use them.
And maybe in a world with magic some of the glasses are lightly enchanted to keep them from breaking.
David Argall 20th May 2019, 6:13 AM edit delete reply
Glasses were not cheap, but not superexpensive either. The eyeglass merchant made them up by the hundred [with different prescriptions] and the customers would try them until they found one that worked.
And as noted, Dad may well get little visual benefit from them. But they mark him as one of the village intellectuals and respected beyond his income. He does seem to be rather young to be on the council of elders.
Andrew_C 20th May 2019, 2:00 PM edit delete reply
Andrew_C
Sort of like those cheap reading glasses you see at pharmacies and somesupermarkets, but on a larger scale?
stormbringer77 6th Nov 2019, 5:49 PM edit delete reply
stormbringer77
Back in the 60s/70s my Dad went to the 5 & Dime stores and got reading glasses,Mom got prescription glasses.Nowadays you can go to a Dollar/General Store and get all sizes of reading glasses for $1 and they'll last a long time.
io 18th May 2019, 5:36 PM edit delete reply
so when does she meet the female templars?
Rocktopus 21st May 2019, 3:46 AM edit delete reply
Rocktopus
Not in this chapter, but you will see eventually!
Blackwing 22nd May 2019, 2:26 AM edit delete reply
Is there an actual Templar order in this world? If so, does Colleen join them?

The Templar label might suit Colleen, since her magic seems to focus on preventing damage, and the mission of the real Knights Templar was to protect pilgrims travelling to the Holy Land.

As an aside, it's strange how fictional universes may have Templars, but you never see Hospitaliers. I imagine them as paladins who specialize in healing magic.
Guest 4th Jun 2019, 1:42 PM edit delete reply
There's totally pillage targets here:

The farmers.

Pretty much the entirety of medieval warfare - from beacon to bastard, mercenary to knight, peasant to king - was burning down farmers and killing serfs and freeman landholders. Armies dodged fights they didn't think they could win and ravaged as much as they could.

Those farmers *are* the targets. It's the same reason Sherman burned Atlanta and America bombed occupied France.